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		<title>Comment on Stanley Cole Murder Trial Begins February 8 in Jackson by Curt Crowley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curt Crowley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you mind if I edit your post to link the Jackson Jambalaya article you cited, so folks can go there and read it?

I know that&#039;s not a substantive edit, but I try not to edit any comments in any manner without the author&#039;s consent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you mind if I edit your post to link the Jackson Jambalaya article you cited, so folks can go there and read it?</p>
<p>I know that&#8217;s not a substantive edit, but I try not to edit any comments in any manner without the author&#8217;s consent.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stanley Cole Murder Trial Begins February 8 in Jackson by Curt Crowley</title>
		<link>http://mississippicriminaldefenselawyerblog.com/2010/01/09/stanley-cole-murder-trial-begins-february-8-in-jackson/#comment-255</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Crowley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are welcome to post all the positive things about Eichelberger you desire.  As I initially stated, I have nothing against the guy, and am not going to respond in opposition to any of your posts on that topic.

As to the First Amendment, your example regarding in-court conduct to support your restrictive view of the First Amendment is a red herring.  Such conduct disrupts the business of the Court and is not what we are talking about here.  The advertising example is also a red herring, as commercial speech is not the issue either (although the US Supreme Court has been pretty darn generous to lawyers even as to commercial speech).

The speech you took issue with here is &quot;pure&quot; speech.  Restrictions on this type of speech are subject to the strictest scrunity, and rarely survive constitutional challenge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are welcome to post all the positive things about Eichelberger you desire.  As I initially stated, I have nothing against the guy, and am not going to respond in opposition to any of your posts on that topic.</p>
<p>As to the First Amendment, your example regarding in-court conduct to support your restrictive view of the First Amendment is a red herring.  Such conduct disrupts the business of the Court and is not what we are talking about here.  The advertising example is also a red herring, as commercial speech is not the issue either (although the US Supreme Court has been pretty darn generous to lawyers even as to commercial speech).</p>
<p>The speech you took issue with here is &#8220;pure&#8221; speech.  Restrictions on this type of speech are subject to the strictest scrunity, and rarely survive constitutional challenge.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stanley Cole Murder Trial Begins February 8 in Jackson by Anym</title>
		<link>http://mississippicriminaldefenselawyerblog.com/2010/01/09/stanley-cole-murder-trial-begins-february-8-in-jackson/#comment-254</link>
		<dc:creator>Anym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting debate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting debate</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stanley Cole Murder Trial Begins February 8 in Jackson by John</title>
		<link>http://mississippicriminaldefenselawyerblog.com/2010/01/09/stanley-cole-murder-trial-begins-february-8-in-jackson/#comment-253</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, one more comment.  I actually went over and read some of the &quot;Kingfish&quot; material.  You forgot to reference the following article posted by Kingfish.  

I believe in the original article I replied to, you said Stanley Cole &quot;got stuck with a low-level assistant public defender to defend him against these charges. &quot;  Which lead you to say: &quot;Things ain’t looking good for Stanley right about now.&quot;

Had you taken a moment to check, you would have seen that Eichelberger was the &quot;low level&quot; public defender appointed to represent Cole, and according to the &quot;Kingfish&quot;.......


Saturday, September 19, 2009
Eichelberger wins JJ poll
 
Matt Eichelberger was voted best criminal defense attorney in Jackson in a recent JJ poll. Second place went to Rob McDuff and Sam Wilkins placed third. It should be noted hours before voting ended Mr. Mcduff enjoyed a 30 vote lead when in the space of one hour over fifty votes were entered for the erstwhile Hinds County public defender.

Bill Kirksey 34 (6%) 
Rob McDuff 88 (15%) 
John Colette 18 (3%) 
Joe Holloman 11 (1%) 
Ed Ranier 6 (1%) 
Dennis Sweet 10 (1%) 
Bill Featherston 3 (0%) 
Frank Trapp 18 (3%) 
Chokwe Lamumba 17 (3%) 
Tom Fortner 5 (0%) 
Sam Wilkins 60 (10%) 
THE Matt Eichelberger 117 (21%) 
Vic Carmody 6 (1%)
Merrida Coxwell 19 (3%)
Tom Royals 17 (3%)
Kevin Camp 1 (0%) 
Cynthia Stewart 13 (2%)
Sam Brand  25 (4%)
Aafrim Sellers 4 (0%) 
David Kaufman 20 (3%)
Cynthia Speetjeens 10 (1%)
Tommy Mayfield 5 (0%) 
Jim Kelly 9 (1%)
Randy Harris 36 (6%) 


Posted by Kingfish at 11:35 AM 5 comments    

Hmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, one more comment.  I actually went over and read some of the &#8220;Kingfish&#8221; material.  You forgot to reference the following article posted by Kingfish.  </p>
<p>I believe in the original article I replied to, you said Stanley Cole &#8220;got stuck with a low-level assistant public defender to defend him against these charges. &#8221;  Which lead you to say: &#8220;Things ain’t looking good for Stanley right about now.&#8221;</p>
<p>Had you taken a moment to check, you would have seen that Eichelberger was the &#8220;low level&#8221; public defender appointed to represent Cole, and according to the &#8220;Kingfish&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Saturday, September 19, 2009<br />
Eichelberger wins JJ poll</p>
<p>Matt Eichelberger was voted best criminal defense attorney in Jackson in a recent JJ poll. Second place went to Rob McDuff and Sam Wilkins placed third. It should be noted hours before voting ended Mr. Mcduff enjoyed a 30 vote lead when in the space of one hour over fifty votes were entered for the erstwhile Hinds County public defender.</p>
<p>Bill Kirksey 34 (6%)<br />
Rob McDuff 88 (15%)<br />
John Colette 18 (3%)<br />
Joe Holloman 11 (1%)<br />
Ed Ranier 6 (1%)<br />
Dennis Sweet 10 (1%)<br />
Bill Featherston 3 (0%)<br />
Frank Trapp 18 (3%)<br />
Chokwe Lamumba 17 (3%)<br />
Tom Fortner 5 (0%)<br />
Sam Wilkins 60 (10%)<br />
THE Matt Eichelberger 117 (21%)<br />
Vic Carmody 6 (1%)<br />
Merrida Coxwell 19 (3%)<br />
Tom Royals 17 (3%)<br />
Kevin Camp 1 (0%)<br />
Cynthia Stewart 13 (2%)<br />
Sam Brand  25 (4%)<br />
Aafrim Sellers 4 (0%)<br />
David Kaufman 20 (3%)<br />
Cynthia Speetjeens 10 (1%)<br />
Tommy Mayfield 5 (0%)<br />
Jim Kelly 9 (1%)<br />
Randy Harris 36 (6%) </p>
<p>Posted by Kingfish at 11:35 AM 5 comments    </p>
<p>Hmmm.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stanley Cole Murder Trial Begins February 8 in Jackson by John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Professor Crowley, I am quite well aware of the Fourteenth Amendment.  However, I believe you are overreaching when you make the unqualified statement that the First Amendment applies to the MRPC.  I know you are well aware of the long line of cases discussing the issue of whether or not the First Amendment applies, without restraint, to the Rules of Professional Conduct.  And you know, as do I, that there are situations, where the RPC may in-fact abridge a lawyer’s freedom of speech.  This discussion is typically had in the context of what lawyers may, or may not say in advertising.

Again, Crowley, the point of my diatribe, and the point of the MRPC, is exactly what is in the name....Rules of &quot;PROFESSIONAL&quot; Conduct.   They are there to inspire and motivate lawyers to hold themselves to a set of higher standards….”professional” standards of conduct.  

 I will concede that no one is going to come and lock you up or take away your Bar license for calling Steffey a &quot;moran,&quot; or anyone else for that matter.   I guess to put it in more simplistic terms....I have the right to put on a dress in my front yard and dance like a monkey with a banana in my ear...however, just because I have the right to do that, does not mean I should exercise it.

Further, I challenge you to put your &quot;First Amendment&quot; rights to the test by using whatever colorful adjective comes to mind next time you are in a courtroom and &quot;counsel opposite&quot; ruffles your feathers, as I have.  Something tells me it would be you, not I, that gets a &quot;butt-chewing&quot; (and probably a little more) from a federal judge, or any other judge for that matter!  

If you choose to take me up on my challenge, please let me know the results.  I can always use some humor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Professor Crowley, I am quite well aware of the Fourteenth Amendment.  However, I believe you are overreaching when you make the unqualified statement that the First Amendment applies to the MRPC.  I know you are well aware of the long line of cases discussing the issue of whether or not the First Amendment applies, without restraint, to the Rules of Professional Conduct.  And you know, as do I, that there are situations, where the RPC may in-fact abridge a lawyer’s freedom of speech.  This discussion is typically had in the context of what lawyers may, or may not say in advertising.</p>
<p>Again, Crowley, the point of my diatribe, and the point of the MRPC, is exactly what is in the name&#8230;.Rules of &#8220;PROFESSIONAL&#8221; Conduct.   They are there to inspire and motivate lawyers to hold themselves to a set of higher standards….”professional” standards of conduct.  </p>
<p> I will concede that no one is going to come and lock you up or take away your Bar license for calling Steffey a &#8220;moran,&#8221; or anyone else for that matter.   I guess to put it in more simplistic terms&#8230;.I have the right to put on a dress in my front yard and dance like a monkey with a banana in my ear&#8230;however, just because I have the right to do that, does not mean I should exercise it.</p>
<p>Further, I challenge you to put your &#8220;First Amendment&#8221; rights to the test by using whatever colorful adjective comes to mind next time you are in a courtroom and &#8220;counsel opposite&#8221; ruffles your feathers, as I have.  Something tells me it would be you, not I, that gets a &#8220;butt-chewing&#8221; (and probably a little more) from a federal judge, or any other judge for that matter!  </p>
<p>If you choose to take me up on my challenge, please let me know the results.  I can always use some humor.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stanley Cole Murder Trial Begins February 8 in Jackson by Curt Crowley</title>
		<link>http://mississippicriminaldefenselawyerblog.com/2010/01/09/stanley-cole-murder-trial-begins-february-8-in-jackson/#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Crowley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well John, I guess you did get Steffey to explain the First Amendment to you, as you obviously have no idea how to apply it to actual factual scenarios.

Here&#039;s a crash course: the First Amendment uses the term &quot;congress,&quot; as in the U.S. Congress.  The Fourteenth Amendment&#039;s due process clause makes the provisions of the First Amendment applicable to the states.  Accordingly, the rules of professional conduct are subject to the provisions of the First Amendment.

I most likely just saved you a butt-chewing from a federal judge one day.  You&#039;re welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well John, I guess you did get Steffey to explain the First Amendment to you, as you obviously have no idea how to apply it to actual factual scenarios.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a crash course: the First Amendment uses the term &#8220;congress,&#8221; as in the U.S. Congress.  The Fourteenth Amendment&#8217;s due process clause makes the provisions of the First Amendment applicable to the states.  Accordingly, the rules of professional conduct are subject to the provisions of the First Amendment.</p>
<p>I most likely just saved you a butt-chewing from a federal judge one day.  You&#8217;re welcome.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stanley Cole Murder Trial Begins February 8 in Jackson by John</title>
		<link>http://mississippicriminaldefenselawyerblog.com/2010/01/09/stanley-cole-murder-trial-begins-february-8-in-jackson/#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point is that as lawyers, maybe we should hold ourselves to a higher standard.  God knows, the public already has enough colorful adjectives to describe lawyers and the law profession.  Why, as lawyers, do we have to join in?  I am certainly not saying you have to agree or appreciate Steffey&#039;s opinions.  But, is it really necessary to resort to name calling?  Oh, and also, as to your references to what various other blogs have to say about Steffey, or anyone else for that matter; have you forgotten the oft-forgotten little missive: &quot;Just because someone else jumps off a bridge, doesn&#039;t mean you have to!&quot;   And, last time I checked, Congress has nothing to do with drafting, implementing or enforcing the Rules of Professional Conduct in Mississippi.   And, Mr. McBride, name calling may be great for tabloid style news or radio talk shows, but it has no legitimate place, nor purpose, in educated, intelligent, fact-based, news, analysis and/or discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is that as lawyers, maybe we should hold ourselves to a higher standard.  God knows, the public already has enough colorful adjectives to describe lawyers and the law profession.  Why, as lawyers, do we have to join in?  I am certainly not saying you have to agree or appreciate Steffey&#8217;s opinions.  But, is it really necessary to resort to name calling?  Oh, and also, as to your references to what various other blogs have to say about Steffey, or anyone else for that matter; have you forgotten the oft-forgotten little missive: &#8220;Just because someone else jumps off a bridge, doesn&#8217;t mean you have to!&#8221;   And, last time I checked, Congress has nothing to do with drafting, implementing or enforcing the Rules of Professional Conduct in Mississippi.   And, Mr. McBride, name calling may be great for tabloid style news or radio talk shows, but it has no legitimate place, nor purpose, in educated, intelligent, fact-based, news, analysis and/or discussion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stanley Cole Murder Trial Begins February 8 in Jackson by McBride</title>
		<link>http://mississippicriminaldefenselawyerblog.com/2010/01/09/stanley-cole-murder-trial-begins-february-8-in-jackson/#comment-249</link>
		<dc:creator>McBride</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt Steffey is a complete ass clown!! He has never tried a criminal case in his life and should be censured from making any comments about trials, including trial sragety, for which he has no idea about. Its like explaining sex to a virgin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Steffey is a complete ass clown!! He has never tried a criminal case in his life and should be censured from making any comments about trials, including trial sragety, for which he has no idea about. Its like explaining sex to a virgin.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stanley Cole Murder Trial Begins February 8 in Jackson by Curt Crowley</title>
		<link>http://mississippicriminaldefenselawyerblog.com/2010/01/09/stanley-cole-murder-trial-begins-february-8-in-jackson/#comment-248</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Crowley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s some links for you, John, regarding Matt Steffey:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://kingfish1935.blogspot.com/2008/07/hypocrite.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kingfish1&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://kingfish1935.blogspot.com/2009/02/concerning-matt-steffey.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kingfish2&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://kingfish1935.blogspot.com/2009/08/legal-expert-or-media-hound.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kingfish3&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://kingfish1935.blogspot.com/2009/08/expert-i-report-you-decide.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kingfish4&lt;/a&gt;

And if &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kingfish1935.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jackson Jambalaya&lt;/a&gt; ain&#039;t your style, you can read Philip Thomas&#039; take on Steffey &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mslitigationreview.com/tags/matt-steffey/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mslitigationreview.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MS Litigation Review&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s some links for you, John, regarding Matt Steffey:</p>
<p><a href="http://kingfish1935.blogspot.com/2008/07/hypocrite.html" rel="nofollow">Kingfish1</a></p>
<p><a href="http://kingfish1935.blogspot.com/2009/02/concerning-matt-steffey.html" rel="nofollow">Kingfish2</a></p>
<p><a href="http://kingfish1935.blogspot.com/2009/08/legal-expert-or-media-hound.html" rel="nofollow">Kingfish3</a></p>
<p><a href="http://kingfish1935.blogspot.com/2009/08/expert-i-report-you-decide.html" rel="nofollow">Kingfish4</a></p>
<p>And if <a href="http://www.kingfish1935.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Jackson Jambalaya</a> ain&#8217;t your style, you can read Philip Thomas&#8217; take on Steffey <a href="http://www.mslitigationreview.com/tags/matt-steffey/" rel="nofollow">here</a> at <a href="http://www.mslitigationreview.com/" rel="nofollow">MS Litigation Review</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stanley Cole Murder Trial Begins February 8 in Jackson by Curt Crowley</title>
		<link>http://mississippicriminaldefenselawyerblog.com/2010/01/09/stanley-cole-murder-trial-begins-february-8-in-jackson/#comment-247</link>
		<dc:creator>Curt Crowley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and John, my commentary is entirely consistent with the rules of professional conduct.  It&#039;s also consistent with the following oft-forgotten little missive: &quot;Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech.&quot;  Since you don&#039;t appear to be familiar with this principle, get your buddy Steffey to explain what it means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and John, my commentary is entirely consistent with the rules of professional conduct.  It&#8217;s also consistent with the following oft-forgotten little missive: &#8220;Congress shall make no law &#8230; abridging the freedom of speech.&#8221;  Since you don&#8217;t appear to be familiar with this principle, get your buddy Steffey to explain what it means.</p>
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